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Saturday, October 24, 2009

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bonnie moss-rhodes

I am so grateful. I also want to than-you and this site for the good work you do. It is so good to be reminded that there are good caring people out there.

Julie

Good news, Bonnie. I just read on the Daily Kos that Ebay rejected the "Domestic Terroist Support Network" Telethon, er, auction.

OperationCounterstrike

If Scott Roeder does not get put to death, then other right-to-lifers should be killed in his place.

It's time to start answering right-to-lifist terror in kind, with COUNTERTERROR against right-to-lifers.

bonnie moss-rhodes

Actually I was not working at the clinic when Christine died. I came back to work for the good Doctor several weeks latter. So no I did not donate to the cost of her funeral. Did you?

Not that it is anymore pertinent to the original subject of this disscussion than your question,but I can say that among other groups I donate to special olympics and I have a Grandchild with disabilities I try to help as offten as possible live independently.

Other things I did not do regarding the tradjedy of Christines death: I did not put up a web site begging for people to send me donations. I did not suggest that this young woman was deliberately killed to cover up incest (how horrible for her family that this accusation was posted on a web page and then spread about the web as the truth with out a single grain of truth in it.)by people who claim to have some sort of moral highground.

I did take the time and effort to read the entire autopsy report. I researched the ability of yeast to become systemic. And I read the report by the grandjury.

I also got the first hand experience of seeing a broken hearted staff grieve for the death of this young woman. You see unlike the folk at the gate the staff actually get to know the patients and their families. We did not have to guess at their situation or motives.

While the patients were under our care real friendships developed. That is why patients continued to write letters for years after they had been in our care to let us know how they were doing and catch us up on their lives and families.

Now back to the actual subject of the disscussion. You did not take the time to read what I wrote. I did not say The Good Doctor testified she was raped. I said he presented evidence that convicted rapists. He presented evidence that showed who did and who did not rape this young woman as he did so very many times.


as to the auction, do you support all terrorists having the best private defense possible or only those you agree with? Actually I think any defendent should have the best possible defense. I also think that the auction is a gimick for a group of folk who want the attention and pubplicity. It has less to do with raising defense money than getting in the news. Like the phelps group these folk crave attention and negative is easier to get than positive.

Pandora

So you didn't help with Christin's funeral expenses?

Tsk, tsk, tsk ..... the sole contribution made was Tiller the Killer telling some Texas grand jury Christin was raped? Whooopee ... Thought that had already been determined before she was brought to her unfortunate meeting with Mr Tiller.

Hopefully the funds raised will pay the killer's attorney's fees. Better that than have the state have to pay a public defender.

bonnie moss-rhodes

I hope e-bay does not allow this. It is no different than if some fringe group sold stuff on e-bay to raise money for the 9/11 zealots.

As for those folk such as pandora. I just see them as poorly informed by choice and not very original either in their arguments or thinking.

Perhaps pandora should take the time to read the whole autopsy report along with aquainting herself with some basic microbiology and then she might have some notion of what she seems to be attempting to disscuss.

The prolifers went all out raising money on this poor girls body. Their only concern for her or her family was on how to turn a tragedy into a profit (either politicaly or monetary). I'm sure pandora is aware that Dr. Tiller was under a grand jury investigation and cleared. Perhaps she is not aware that Dr. Tiller provided evidence before a Texas jury investigating Christines rape. Or that he provided evidense in hundreds of rape cases that ensured the rapists were convicted.

The only time I ever heard a prolife group mentions this activity was on one web site they were condeming Dr. Tiller for assisting in the conviction of a preacher who had impregnated a fourteen year old.

Pandora

Now you fans of Tiller the Killer had a chance to demonstrate some class. Did you sell any of your stuff to help pay for Christin Gilbert's funeral?

Julie

It gets worse, Bonnie. I have read at Slate that anti-abortion protestors are selling stuff on ebay to raise funds for Tiller's murderer. Real classy, like Pandora who graces this site with her poor debating skills.

bonnie moss-rhodes

I worked for Dr. Tiller. I worked nights and had the honor of many late night conversations with this brave man. We had talked many times about the danger to him. Several times he told me that he knew it was said he hoped if they did it would be a clean head shot.

He lived with the constant harassment, the threats, the vandalism and the misrepresentation. He fought back against the numerous lawsuits, a grand jury investigation brought by petition (kansas you only have to have so many signatures on a petition to force a grand jury)the insults for thirty plus years.

He did it for his patients whose welfare and lives he placed above all else. He was a man of monumental courage who lived with dignity and honor. He was a man who gave of his own time and resources every day to help others. He was a man who loved his family, bragged about his children and grandchildren. He was a man proud that he had served in the Navy. He was good to his staff beyond just being a boss. I remember him going to the hospital following a ambulance that held one of our staff who had become ill. Of course the antis immediately had pictures all over the internet that it had to be a "botched" abortion and that the patient probably had died. He knew they would harrass him as he walked through the parking lot and of course there were the pictures of him parking his car that somehow proved he had done "something". He did not even hesitate becuase he was concerned his staff member be looked after.

Shame on a show like this to use the assasination of a good man, a real man with real live family and friends. It makes them no better than those in the "pro-life" camp that attempted to make points and donations on the death of this good man while also claiming to be not advocating the violence that lead to his death.

As to the former comment about "a killer decided to kill a killer" how sad that anyone could be that simple minded. "Tiller the killer" was not his name but rather a slogan that was part of the rethoic that was used to incite the violence. His name was George Tiller, one of the best men I ever knew, and I miss him dearly.

Pandora

“This story purports to be balanced but we are about to insinuate that a doctor who was assassinated was, himself, guilty of homicide, and thus to blame for his own murder.”

Yes Dr Tiller was guilty of killing. Homicide, no, as that is a legal term for a criminal act, and I don't believe Mr Tiller was convicted of the crime of homicide. But his name of Tiller the Killer was well deserved.

To blame for his own murder? Well, no. His killer is responsible for his own actions, as was Tiller the Killer. A killer decided to kill a killer.

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